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Entirely -- they are not sure how they are going to harness what is going out there. you talked about the town halls. and b, really build this party from the ground up. it really bears a reading that as some of them said, it's not just the white house. it's not just the senate or the house of representatives. it's the governor's mansions and legislatures across the country that need to be built back up and that democrats who either stayed home or voted for donald trump in many cases in the key states, that's in the middle of the country. you need to be brought back to the country. and encourag...

It was not a politically popular thing to do, and it suffered. in mississippi there's a case where the expectation was, oh, it's mississippi. we'll pass this thing, and it got beat back fairly easily. there were national figures who were asked about it and were very -- >> litmus test. >> i know mitt romney had his whole problem answering it. by and large, he tried his best to distance himself from it. i do think there are occasions where the national republican party recognizes it it's sending a divisive message. i think that will continue to be the case. >> let me just say i think part of the...