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Issuing subpoenas to make sure there's no criminal wrongdoing in collusion between duke energy and the state regulator. >> right. the u.s. attorney's office has conducted a grand jury investigation which began last week, and separately the epa is coming down to enforce the the it's in charge of regulating. we're going to come in and issuing subpoenas to make sure there's no criminal wrongdoing in collusion between duke energy and the state regulator. >> right. the u.s. attorney's office has conducted a grand jury investigation which began last week, and separately the epa is coming down to enf...

Place. >> do you assume -- obviously your experience would be primarily in alaska. do you assume this is the case in the gulf and what we're looking at with this thing, that bp is continually spilling two to three, 400,000 gallons of oil into the gulf right now each day? do you think something like that happened there, based on your experience? >> yes, i do. i think it's a culture that is within bp, and other drilling contractors. yes, i do. >> is there any way out of the corruption in this system, in your opinion? >> no, until we have stronger regulations and stronger commissions and more hon...

Place. >> do you assume -- obviously your experience would be primarily in alaska. do you assume this is the case in the gulf and what we're looking at with this thing, that bp is continually spilling two to three, 400,000 gallons of oil into the gulf right now each day? do you think something like that happened there, based on your experience? >> yes, i do. i think it's a culture that is within bp, and other drilling contractors. yes, i do. >> is there any way out of the corruption in this system, in your opinion? >> no, until we have stronger regulations and stronger commissions and more hon...

And pretty much let the oil fields write the procedures in the first place. >> do you assume -- obviously your experience would be in alaska -- do you assume this is the case in the gulf and what we're looking at with this thing, that bp is continually spilling 200,000, 300,000, 400,000 in the gulf each day? do you think something like that happened there based on your experience? >> yes, i do. i think it's a culture within bp and other drilling contractors. >> is there any way out of the corruption in this system in your opinion? >> no. until we have a stronger regulations and stronger commis...

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