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The population in alabama, one of the highest percentage of any state. mississippi is even higher. mississippi is 37% african-american. are these states per howard dean's 50 state strategy, states that democrats should go back to. senate race in mississippi for instance? >> democrats can't leave anything on the table. what happened in alabama is perfect example, especially with steve bannon leading the charge. white supremist who now seems to be chief strategist on these races. can't leave anything on the table. going to have more extremist candidates we haven't seen in a long time. that's ten...

State strategy which i was a big part of under governor dean which says stop that nonsense, we can win everywhere if we invest and do the work. as a black women, i don't want to be referred to as the backbone of the party. i'm a swing voter. you have to work for it. you have to earn it. you have to show up. governor dean used to say it is a sign of respect to show up and ask people for their vote. i also believe if we don't, then shame on us. because if people don't even hear our argument, then they have no other choice. i hope that the party is actually very serious about getting back to what...

That the problem, aside from the political science problems with both political parties right now, the problem with the dnc is that it was weakened by and under president obama. >> yes. when he replaced howard dean with tim kaine that was a deal. dean believed in a 50 state strategy. he worked with virginia, he replaces him with debbie wasserman schultz congresswoman from florida but they never had a strong relationship. in 2013 she was affrayed she was going to get replaced. many democrats in the dnc were saying she's weak, replace her. he doesn't do it. >> why? >> well, because frankly, obam...

We have to do is scale these success stories of recent months. >> look, i know some of these things both iowa and new hampshire i think were technically democratic holds at the time because it was a special to replace democrats on that front. but i want to talk about the -- let me bring up alabama. what are you doing in alabama senate? it's a total mess in the republican primary side. it is pretty clear to me that the national party is not that serious about targeting alabama senate. >> well, listen, i've met with doug jones. i've known doug jones is one of the candidates for the senate race i...

Governor until a few years ago. we have democrats representing coal country in east kentucky. it's not just republicans. another point i would make here that is interesting and unfolding right now. we were talking in the make up room about the race in virginia for governor. two interesting democratic candidates. tom has run this very progressive race, very populist on economics. free community college,lying wage, but also racial and criminal justice reform. his strongest support in the state is in coal country. it is very interesting. it tells you that we can recontar reconnect and appeal to u...