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In and what russia does, but first nbc's looking at the problems with journalists, the problems that are going on over there, security issues with the threats from radical muslims. yeah, putin, russia, syria, it's all about the only warm water base since the cold war, and they're backers of iran, they trade with iran which is the world's largest sponsor of state terrorism. so before you even get to human rights, you've got a broader picture of one of the world's largest if not the largest arms dealer, because they sell to everyone. they're in the business of, basically, pushing russia's intere...

At the same time, today, for example, assad's foreign minister stated that the west is actually helping al qaeda or the extremism. so this kind of statement would show you how much this regime lies, you know, and rhetorical about everything he says. the terrorism -- al qaeda it itself, we are the ones fighting al qaeda. the syrian people are fighting al qaeda. you know we are doing that in the north in aleppo, fighting this i.s.i.s. group, fighting two fronts, al qaeda on one front and the regime on one front. and both of them are actually terrorists. the regime is practicing state terrorism a...

Prisons but let's see them do something constructive about the number one issue we have the nuclear issue. or the number two issue which is their sponsorship of state terrorism to hezbollah and number three issue which is their actively involvement in propping up the assad regime.h there's nothing that hehe has st or done other than, you know, charming words, and pleasant a things that gives us any confidence they're going to be any different. he's got to demonstrate -- >> we've got a couple of minutes left. and one of us at this table is just back from syria, talking with syrian president ass...

You with me? >> yes. it is democracy. you have to know what you don't know. and sometimes we're prepared to give up our ability to know something in order to keep secrets from our enemies. remember today, anything we know they know. the great tragedy is that the story was broken by a man named glen greenwalt from the guardian. he's an american barbshbasher. he hates america. he says a little terrorism is not a bad thing. it is like being struck by lightning. he doesn't even approve of the use of the word terrorism. he says terrorism is an excuse for allowing america and america's allies to use...

Consent to an interview, but doug feith is in this film, and he says some very revealing things. the purpose after 9/11 was to shock the sponsors of state terrorism to get them to change their policies. that's his quote in this film. now -- >> which isn't what they told the public. >> it's not what they told the public, and it was not about changing policy as i think your last bite here will show because it's very clear this was never about changing policies. >> this is what they will want to watch tonight, michael. the documentary which you really were behind includes the talking points from ...