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So what that could look like, additional humanitarian assistance, as you were talking to wenl wendy sherman, more wea nonlethal and lethal aid that any of these nations can provide to ukraine. we've seen this outpouring of equipment that's been flowing into ukraine, and it is being used by the ukrainian military, in some cases very effectively. the reality is this is an ongoing dynamic war that is occurring in ukraine right now. the ukrainian military will need more and more support as this drags on, katy. >> yes, indeed. thank you so much. still ahead the truth came out on live tv in front of...