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I wonder whether you think that's even possible. >> well, they do say that and they say that because they don't want to deal with russia. they don't want any crises. they want to focus on the domestic agenda. they want to focus on china. and i understand that logic, right? no more headaches from russia. i don't, if i have to predict, i don't think it will work because vladimir putin wants to be in the mix. the build up of the soldiers he had in ukraine was a bit of a station identification to say, no, you're not going to freeze me in place. i'm going to be a player here. and therefore i think ...

>> i'm afraid that the reality is that when you do tend to wipe them out or at least defeat them -- i think it's a better way to say it, is you defeat them. because many of them find a way of getting away. and because of that, they show up in other places. and they're trying to show that even when they suffer setbacks, they still will be operating, and they'll carry out these outrages. for them, carrying out these kinds of outrages becomes an emblem that they're still there. it's a kind of station identification that they're still there, and they're still able to do this. part of what we have ...

Minister abe was visiting with trump. what's important here are two things. one, secretary clinton called for a tougher north korea policy. there is a tougher policy. we can impose much more personal sanctions that strike at the heart of the actual north korean regime. china doesn't want that but it has been effective. the question is whether trump will use this to get a tougher policy but equally important, this is our first chance to see what happens when trump has said not going to happen, he's going to escalate this, they're likely to escalate. we're either going to see a kind of war of wo...

The united states. >> you said it was station identification. >> the missile test. it's the biggest national challenge facing us. current policy for several decades, bipartisan, has not worked. we can try to reassure them about the political complexion of a korea peninsula. they kind of like a divided peninsula. we also have to bring japan and south korea on board. >> is it possible we need to do something much more dramatic. do we have to tell them if you push the north koreans and the regime collapses, what they're worried about is a unified korea which has 30,000 american troops, a treaty w...

Three decades. take a look. >> in 34 years, 5,914 shows and almost 6,000 shows, ladies and gentlemen. >> reporter: he started off making $1506 a week as a weekend weatherman and booth announcer. but his stand-up comedy help land him his own late night show on nbc working in the shadow of the great johnny carson. and while johnny paraded out the stars, letterman made his name being off-beat. >> we are going to pull out here for station identification and get the host -- whoa. >> reporter: johnny carson throne of "the tonight show" was passed on to jay leno forcing letterman to cbs and a late ni...