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More and more like an object in space, do you know? the image of an object in space. and so i, being rather slow coming from suffolk, i finally realised i should be making the things rather than painting them. and quite often i could be working on a painting for quite a while and realise it was a sculpture or work on a sculpture for a while and realise it was actually a painting. i mean, these things are very funny. and you took on a very public commissions, sort of monument/statue commissions. and i'm thinking in central london, you did an intriguing sort of public sculpture celebrating oscar...

And the paintings were becoming more and more like an object in space, do you know? the image of an object in space. and so i, being rather slow coming from suffolk, i finally realised i should be making the things rather than painting them. and quite often i could be working on a painting for quite a while and realise it was a sculpture or work on a sculpture for a while and realise it was actually a painting. i mean, these things are very...funny. and you took on a very public commissions, sort of monument/statue commissions. and i'm thinking in central london, you did an intriguing sort of ...

Well, i was painting a painting which... it was during the laugh paintings, which i painted in the �*90s when everything was doom and gloom and thatcher, and i started to try and paint the laugh cos it was the only thing to do. and the paintings were becoming more and more like an object in space, do you know? the image of an object in space. and so i, being rather slow coming from suffolk, i finally realised i should be making the things rather than painting them. and quite often i could be working on a painting for quite a while and realise it was a sculpture or work on a sculpture for a w...

And paint the laugh cos it was the only thing to do. and the paintings were becoming more and more like an object in space, do you know? the image of an object in space. and so i, being rather slow coming from suffolk, i finally realised i should be making the things rather than painting them. and quite often i could be working on a painting for quite a while and realise it was a sculpture or work on a sculpture for a while and realise it was actually a painting. i mean, these things are very...funny. and you took on a very public commissions, sort of monument/statue commissions. and i'm think...