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The trump campaign? what did manafort get? was he working for the trump campaign trying to get information to help trump? was he just trying to make money for himself, because the russian was part of his meal ticket in the ukraine? it's really an extraordinary meeting in an extraordinary place. obviously, what went on in the meeting is something we can't know for sure, at least at this point. >> rick gates, manafort's deputy, who has pled guilty, he is cooperating with the mueller investigation, he was at that meeting and presumably he has told mueller and his team everything he knows about th...

Trump campaign is still unclear. the document also gave no indication whether president trump was aware of manafort transferring the data and didn't specify how kilimnik might have used it. we do know manafort and his deputy rick gates asked kilimnik to give it to the uen cran oligarchs, who financed russian-backed political parties. george vance, let me start with you on this, how can something like this potentially or could it potentially implicate the president more broadly having hired paul manafort, having him run the campaign, or is that connection not strong enough for that to be an iss...

Run the campaign, or is that connection not strong enough for that to be an issue? >> i think the short answer is we don't know. mueller likely has a lot of information that's not publicly available but it's pretty interesting to me manafort, whose best protection here would have been to tell mueller's team everything that he knew, that was his one guarantee of getting favorable treatment at sentencing, there was something here that was so important that he had to protect it. i think that certainly could have been other people who knew what he was up to. >> jeremy bash, what do you make of thi...

Conversations with giuliani and how do they agree with this assessment by steve bannon? >> it's not just giuliani. i mean, you talk to many people in and around the president now. and look, to be fair to john dowd, hindsight is 20/20. he did feel back when the mueller investigation started that he had a good relationship with mueller. that he got the sense from mueller explicitly and from mueller's deputies this would be -- that this would move faster if the trump white house complied. and boy, did they. it really was to be fair to the trump team, they gave the mueller team everything that the...

And that is even bigger news than that witness saying in court today, "i plead guilty." paul manafort spent this week telling the special prosecutor's team everything he knows about every crime he has committed or every crime he knows about. some of paul manafort's crimes were described in court today by andrew weissmann of the special counsel's office, but prosecutor weissman was careful to point out that nothing that he publicly described in court today includes anything that paul manafort has told the special prosecutor in his first week of cooperation with the special prosecutor. so there ...