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There's a whole lot of hate that is probably there in his heart, so he has every reason to lie. first of all, about the escape. he is telling investigators, according to the district attorney that they were almost discovered twice, once when they were hiding out by a nearby cabin when they overheard authorities speaking to residents, and the residents asking whether in fact they should leave the area. well apparently the people who did leave the area were the two escapees the second time david sweat was on his own in a hunting stabbed and also heard agents and custom and border patrol coming c...

Perches on trees where you spot animals. so interesting details. so it has to be corroborated. brianna? >> that's the question, right, larry? how can investigators trust what he's telling them? >> the guy has nothing to lose. he's serving a life sentence, they can convict him for the escape, the burglary or the cabins, whatever he stole, but he's never going to get out and if you look at these steam pipes and he says he's using a hacksaw blade, anybody who's taken a regular blade, because i don't think they were a saw, they're flimsy, how many blades would he have had to use to cut through tha...

Steam pipe, they slipped out of their cells night after night finding a passage way. there they came across a sledgehammer likely left by a construction worker breaking down a brick wall to make their way out. sweat tells investigators the escapees tried one manhole but it was too close to a neighborhood. >> he felt due to there being a number of houses in that area that it might not be a good spot to exit from. >> reporter: the next night, they tried again, finding a more isolated manhole where the escapees were to meet joyce mitchell. sweat says while he was the mastermind it was mitchell's ...

Superintendent stephen who led andrew cuomo on a tour of how the convicts broke free. david sweat is saying they used hacksaws not power tools to cut through the cell wall then into the steam pipe. chris, hacksaws are going to be a lot less noisy than power tools. >> that's true. thank you very much. the question is, what's next for the escaped convict, sweat. his time in the hospital is nearing an end. let's get to sara with part of the story live at albany medical center sara? >> reporter: good morning. david sweat continues to recover and continues to talk which is good for authorities. he'...

Hours passed, they could be in tennessee or ohio. they could be well away from the scene. that's where joyce mitchell would be excess baggage and they would find her by the side of the road i'm sure. >> so she bailed. we all know she's in custody. >> and the best thing for her to bail. >> she probably would have been dead. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. so you have -- she's in custody this other guard in custody as well. but, to your point, we were talking during 8 commercial break you were saying listen brooke, there were probably other people on the inside in on this because, to your point, i...