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Justice department based their application to the fisa court to surveil that trump campaign adviser carter page based on the so-called steele dossier. in the memo the democratic memo you say that's not true, explain. >> yeah, chris, thanks for having me on. it is a democratic memo now make s plain, the application to monitor carter page was not based on the steele information and if we have time we will cover whether the steele has been discredited. but as our memo makes clear, carter page was of interest because of connections to russians for years before 2016, october 2016, he had all sorts ...

Warrant. the fbi speculates that the u.s. person, glen simpson of fusion gps was likely looking for information that would have discredited candidate number one, donald trump's campaign, speculates likely, shouldn't the fbi had been a lot clearer to the court that the steele was bought and paid for by the clinton campaign? >> well, remember when steele is doing this work, he doesn't know the fact. he's been hired by fusion gps, hired by a law firm which has bn hired by the dnc and clinton campaign. you can read and the american public can read what was shown to the judge, the individual who di...

>> no. here -- here is what you have to do in this chapter, you have to weigh individual rights which i clearly believe in. i believe in the second amendment, but you also have to make sure you protect your citizens, your kids and so you've got to wage these things. what i did hear is i'm going to do what i can to make sure that guns are not in the hands of the wrong people. if you have mental illness, you shouldn't have a gun. you threaten others, if you threaten yourself, you shouldn't have a gun so i'm going to do everything i can at the same time hardened our schools and make sure we share...

Expected it to be. and that is a point by point refutation of the nunes memo. it's fot as though the nunes memo needed a refutation because the best rebuttal to the nunes memo was in fact the nunes memo. but this lays out in about 10 or 11 very clear, concise pages exactly where the nunes memo erred. in my reading of this the most important takeaway here is the fact that the democrats contend the steele dossier was not in any way used to as a predicate for the july 2016 launch of the investigation into the trump campaign. it was in fact the information that george papadopoulos provided to the ...

False impressions created over this long period. >> charlie, jill makes some interesting points there. does this memo suddenly become just a part of the noise where there are so many other things going on, and the memo is so much later than the gop memo that came out weeks ago, that this just doesn't really resonate with people, with the public, with citizens, as jill mentioned? >> it ought to. but it probably won't, i agree with that. the news cycle has moved on. we're talking about guns now. and, you know, by the time of course there's a vote on gun control and probably it gets voted down, t...