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What mr. ratcliffe said. even the president is innocent until proven guilty. my time is up. >> the gentleman from tennessee. >> thank you, mr. chair. first i would just like to restate that mr. nadler said about your career. it is a model of rectitude and i thank you. based upon your investigation, how did president trump react to your appointment as special counsel? >> i send you the report where that is stated. >> there is a quote from page 78 of your report volume 2 which reads when sessions told the president that a special counsel had been appointed, the president slumped back in his chai...

We haven't heard him interact with aaron zebley who came in with him to back him up on some of these things but clearly he is leaning on the report and then at times asked does conspiracy equal collusion and he said no. and then he was read that part of the report which says essentially that is what he found in the report. and then he sort of back pedaled and said well, go with what's in my report. >> brett: i'll bring the panel in, democrats aren't having the former special counsel read from the report after seeing his halting answers referring back and asks for questions again, why they aren...

Sir? >> let me go to the next one. the president quote criticized mcgahn for telling your office about the june 17th, 2017 events when he told mcgahn to have you removed, correct? >> correct. >> in other words, the president was criticizing his white house counsel for telling law enforcement officials what he believed to be the truth. >> again go back to the text of the report. >> well, let me go a little bit further. would it have been a crime if mr. mcgahn had lied to you about the president ordering him to fire you? >> i don't want to speculate. >> okay. is it true that you charged multiple...

Whether the investigation was impeded in any way. he said no. democrats are trying to hammer down this view of obstruction because that's the only thing they have left and they were hoping today that americans would tune in and watch robert mueller testify about this report because they hadn't read it. none of that is happening. he is not giving any extra information or answers about what went on. republicans are laying out the case, the origins and corruption how the whole thing started. >> brett: outside the hearing room is catherine herridge. she has been inside watching this and covered th...

>> i can't answer that question. >> well, on page 89 in your report volume 2 you said, and i quote, substantial evidence indicates that the president's attempts to remove the special counsel were linked to the special counsel's oversight of investigations that involved the president's conduct and most immediately to reports that the president was being investigated for potential obstruction of justice, close quote. director mueller, you found evidence, as you lay out in your report, that the president wanted to fire you because you were investigating him for obstruction of justice, isn't that ...