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Was ordering him to do? >> i direct you to what we wrote in the report in terms of characterizing his feelings. >> in the report it says mcgahn understood the president to be saying that the special counsel had to be removed. you also say on page 86 that quote, mcgahn considered the president's request to be an inflection point and he wanted to hit the brakes and he felt trapped and mcgahn decided he had to resign. mcgahn took action to prepare to resign, isn't that correct? >> i direct you again to the report. >> in fact that day he went to the white house and according to your report he drov...

Deny "the new york times" report about the president trying to fire you, correct? >> correct. >> in fact, the president's counsel was so alarmed by the prospect of the president's meeting with mcgahn that he called mr. mcgahn's counsel and said that mcgahn could not resign no matter what happened in the oval office that day, correct? >> correct. >> so it's accurate to say that the president knew that he was asking mcgahn to deny facts that mcgahn, quote, had repeatedly said were accurate, unquote, isn't that right? >> correct. >> your investigation also found, quote, by the time of the oval of...

Republican opponents of the president, then hillary clinton's campaign hired. they hired a former british spy. he solicited information from russian officials. that is equal to the russian government and the russian military intelligence interfering in the election in 2016? >> first of aushlll, the steele report. steele turned the report over to the fbi in the summer of 2016. so this document was turned over. but let's say on a going forward basis, if there was a former foreign agent that was hired, yeah, that ought to be disclosed to the fbi. i'm open to -- again, how do we make this work goi...

Democratic national committee and to continue what paul manafort was doing with the russians. if you read the steele report and you substituted stormy daniels for the russians and the hackers, its like he was doing the same thing. he was trying to keep all of this away from donald trump. >> cover-up stories, keep them away, not have them come up. independent of the statement that michael cohen made, jessica, that this was done with the intent of influencing the election, would the hush money payments still be problematic? >> the hush money payments could be problematic for the person who made ...

Security agency is from these intercepted phone calls. and that's not a great secret, by the way. >> right. i should point out -- >> the russians are very -- >> i should point out what you're saying is well-known to the russians. it's obviously in the past there has been lots of reporting about intercepts even in the -- >> yeah. >> -- the indictments against the russians talk about overhearing phone conversations. >> exactly, anderson. there -- you know, the russians are sloppy. what can i say? it's not the old kgb. they talk on the phone. they gossip, the oligarchs in the kremlin talk about i...