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>> it wouldn't have made a difference. how do we know? i mean that seriously. how do we know? they got the mueller report. you look at what -- paul: they are still accusing him of collusion. >> when bob mueller came in, there was enough evidence that this was going nowhere, yet they continued the investigation. the whole thing from the beginning is finding out that the steele stuff was not credible and they went with it anyway. >> let's not for get the inspector general's report which came out more recently. that had evidence of the fbi hiding exculpatory evidence. that is really a scandal. it...

Dossier is true, that he's not going to be able to answer whether he had a second or third source. >> but gather information and then the intelligence community is supposed to figure out if it's true or not. >> no, he's supposed to gather the information and then republicans or democrats use it in a political ad. this is not an intelligence gain but a political gain. >> that's not his job to do. >> that's correct. but they're going to say did you confirm your stuff is true, and i bet he's going to say no. >> that is very interesting when it comes to what happens mittically and what happens leg...

Accuse people of things they didn't do. >> yeah, but the white house is then going to have an opportunity to say, look, what i told you is true. the steele stuff, nonsense. >> nonsense. thank you all. i appreciate it. so here's a question. why is john dean getting ready to testify in front of the house jewi judiciary committee? he'll explain, next. discover card. hi, do you have a travel card? we do! the discover it® miles card. earn unlimited 1.5 miles on every purchase, plus we'll match your miles at the end of your first year. you'll match my miles? yeah! mile for mile! and no blackout dat...

And they have to pursue this guy. >> they can't just go to the judge and say look we had a fisa on him in 2013 we need another one now, he's part of the campaign, right? >> we're not seeing the meta data, not seeing the cia reporting. >> we know he went to moscow in july of 2017. >> and meeting with kgb officers close to putin. making pro russian statements. he fits the profile of somebody the kgb would recruit. plus you have all this other stuff, not just the steele stuff. tons of it we're not seeing from the fisa that make you very suspicious of this guy. so the fbi going after him was not a...

The evidence they had in the first place to get the first warrant. number two, what they may have gotten from the coverage that they had in existence. and then the accusation is that somehow they used information that was tainted from the steele dossier to reinforce the point. but you realize even if they had used that information, you had the other two buckets of data, and you don't put the steele stuff in there without corroboration. so even if what they say is true, and i don't know that, we need to scope it. it doesn't indicate a need to purge the organs of american justice. >> is this a d...