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To speak at the more rogue wild protests, which was the name at the event. that took place right on the side of the capitol. so we know that there was this involvement. but with dustin and jen have told, me the documents that they are providing to the committee, shut a little bit of more light on what exactly that involvement may have looked. like >> so let's talk about the allegation against co-starred here. they say that they spoke to paul gosar at some point, we that he dangled the presidential pardon. which, by the way it was due to their involvement with the fact that they said, we build ...

It's not a crazy notion when you think of the fact that biden was indicted over the involvement with the same organization. he was then pardoned by trump after he tried very hard to essentially pull off the insurrection on trump's we have. so it's not like a crazy fact pattern to just dismiss out of hand. we don't know if it's true. gosar denies. it i want to read here, what they told you about why they are cooperating with the committee. behind those sentiments about whether they are cooperating is a hard reality. stockton is running out of -- we've seen what's happened with bannon, we don't ...

That he represented it as a situation where he wasn't getting paid. and allegedly, according to the doj, he and a couple of other leaders of the group took a lot of money while saying that they were doing the sort of pro-bono. dustin and jen, had this -- on their rv in 2020. at the casablanca resort in mesquite, nevada. but they were never charged. so they felt like this was hanging over their heads. and according to them, paul gosar did his chief of staff, called them in december 2020 as they had begun this anti-election bus tour with amy kramer. and it was basically represented to them. they...