>> that's a completely ridiculous answer. i want to collect more records from terrorists, but less records from other people. how are you supposed to know, megan? how are you supposed to -- >> get a warrant. get a judge to sign the warrant. >> get a warrant. so, panel. thoughts? >> i wanted to hear rand paul's argument about this and appreciate him going up against christy. i thought christy was a little emotionally manipulative. i'm rooting for rand paul to bring in some of this discussion and say, look, we're a country that exists on a balance between security and freedom. if we can't recogn...