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Then you have giuliani, who is supposed to be helping, come out and say, it didn't matter because he was so ineffective. he didn't help. but it was the president who came between at&t and this merger deal. what does it say to you that they're having to reverse on that. but you have giuliani, at least suggesting that there was a direct relationship paid to play for at&t. >> i'm going to push back a little bit, joy. he is helping, he's helping us. and i hope he keeps talking, because every time he talks, our case gets better. and what we're seeing is more and more vindicated. this guy is a walki...