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Schar, who is this top flight guy coming in from the fitzgerald case -- or actually the blagojevich case out in illinois which he won that prosecution. let me go to stan brand. does this look like an important development that they've combined their legislative forces here? >> big-time. because you know, chris, from working in the congress, when you have competition and rivalries between two chambers' investigative committees you have problems. it's much better for them to try to coordinate and get together on this than be rival groups competing with one another. >> but at the end of the day, ...

Witness, at least those who are not in office, and there is a lot of them right now, they're going to take the same step wildstein took which is to invoke their fifth amendment privileges. we're not going to get live testimony. >> what do you get bridget kelly thinking her own gmail or aol account would somehow protect her from subpoena. michael, it seems to me if that's a continual problem within these people, you're going to see a lot of e-mail reaching the jury here. >> well, actually, we've seen a lot of the e-mails. and in bridget kelly's, it was yahoo account. every time they were discus...