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He knew, and he is responsible for what happened. but a couple of things here. after all of that, that was him in trying to influence a witness, what it means for the next election, and what does it mean for the former president? stick around, we will be right back. to help you feel connected. upload your logo or start your design today at customink.com in two seconds, this family will realize... they're going to need a yard. we got to sell the house. or skip the hassles and sell directly to opendoor. baxter no!

Today. you said it caught you off guard. tell me about this moment, and what was said. i know i spoke to you after the hearing, but i want the audience to hear what you thought of it. >> yeah. i don't remember what exactly mr. ayers said to me. like i said, it kind of caught me off guard. but, to the extent that he apologized, not to take away from his apology. i am not looking for apologies from anybody. i am not looking for apologies from the former president. and those who supported him on january 6th, i just want to count ability. his apology to me didn't really

Last month. i was excited to -- i found a couple of weeks ago but i also passed the lieutenant test, based on my scores. and instead of me celebrating that, now i have to plan, possibly, my life after being a police officer, because my career has come to a halt. because of genera six and the people who perpetrated it are still living their life, and they don't care about how many lives he ruined. just for his loss of power. >> and still saying that he won an election that he lost. >> correct? >> he mentioned stephen ayers, a capitol rioter who testified

Historian Kate Masur, an expert on the 19th-century, discusses historical events referenced by House Jan. 6 committee members, and observations from the testimonies of former Oath Keeper Jason Van Tatenhove and Donald Trump supporter Stephen Ayers.

Back now with philip, ashley , elliott and alice. cheney dropping bombshells that trump contacted a witness we had not seen yet, claiming that prison never picked up instead telling their lawyer who told the committee and informed the doj. what does it tell you that trump himself made the call, instead of a staffer? >> right. to find out who the person is. if it is ivanka trump it may not be a big deal. if it's another witness it may very much be a big deal. it depends on number one, who he called, why he called them, and what that is. >> donald trump would not be calling the city saying that ...