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Milestone, with this huge star about to break into the 600 club any day now, why is there this collective shrug? joining us is dave zyron, sports editor for the nation and author of the new book, "bad sports how owners are ruining the games we love." great to have you here in person. >> great to be here, chris. >> let's start with this a-rod thing. do you agree it's not that big a deal and it's sort of strange it isn't? >> absolutely. this has everything to do with major league baseball. they have placed alex rodriguez in the major league baseball version of the witness protection program. he'...

Off the record, why is it when it comes to steroids, tri distribution is a team issue but punishment is an individual issue? >> i've been doing reporting on this actually for the book i'm working on. the union seems to have kind of done a lot to keep the steroids issue going. insofar as they really resisted in a block way attempts to introduce a testing regime. they have accountability for that era as well. >> there's some accountability there. here's the thing about the union. they have a job, to protect the interests of the players. there were a lot of questions raised about the reliability ...