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And the white house has been telling us to focus very much on getting out the base. the way they explain it, migration, ms-13, media and mueller. sort of four things to definitely get republicans to the poll. mueller is falling off the radar screen now lately but immigration, ms-13, crime, the border, a key issue for donald trump and most motivated republican voters and hope to hit that over and over and over again in the days leading up to the midterm and a big issue for him. it was in 2016. it is again in 2018. >> well, he's got sort of a two-part strategy for the base. you know, immigration...

Discussions and it is like even though he told the associated press he is not on the ballot he is a shadow over the ballot and republicans are driven by the support and the president is a boogieman that drives democrats to the polls. >> but people say they want all the time is a reasonable, pragmatic washington that is not gridlocked. they want bipartisanship. if what you're saying true, stev nick, i turn to steve, we'll end up with a hollowed out center. >> i talked about it in my book but there's a portion of the human beings hard wired a bit for tribalism and where trump is going at the dem...

Progressive, anti-capitalistic force which isn't the case. right? you got guys like bob casey. there are loads of people running who are democrat who is are running on centrist platforms and while we might be hard wired for tribalism, the tribes that the president is describing aren't reality. >> well, but, this is -- nothing new in a certain way and emphasize the most extreme examples from your opponent's camp and use the examples to try to motivate your side saying, see, you need to come out and oppose these folks. i think what trump has tapped into, what we saw him tap into in the rise in 2...

Earlier today when chuck schumer was speaking to steve and mika he said america is tired of political correctness. there's a difference between political correctness and being straightforward and decent at the same time. the president gets to now say i'm the one who's straight talking to you and not forcing you to call an easter egg a spring sphere but there's a difference with saying, you know what? stop being so hyper sensitive and get real. >> i think that strong political rhetoric works. paint in brad, extreme brushes and that's the approach you take to fire up voters to get to the polls. ...

Approval rating from say 45 back down to 41 or 40? and in terms of the implications for november, there's a very, very big difference between donald trump being at a 45% approval rating and donald trump being at a 40% approval rating. >> all right, nick. while the things the president could be saying are absurd, it's flat-out lies and he creates a swell of enthusiasm. does the democratic party have a person that they should be putting out there right now across the country in a media blitz in the same fashion that donald trump is doing? >> yeah. i think they should. and that person is -- >> wh...