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Beyond efforts to suppression democratic influence. fueled by the big lie this effort picks up where last year's insurrection left off by systematically taking over every aspect of the voting process end quote. ari berman joins me now, a senior reporter for the mother jones and the author of "give us the ballot the modern struggle for voting rights in america", and steve, the editor of the maddow blog, and the author of the impos tors, how republicans quit governing and seized american politics. good to see you this morning. i have more than a casual affection for democracy, and i go to people...

Feel the erosion of certain other rights. >> i think you're right and that's borne out in polls. we see it in all kinds of survey data that americans don't recognize the degree to which the democracy is in peril that the threats are very real and it's incumbent upon public officials and us as journalists to let them know, look, this is a serious crisis. our democracy cannot be taken for granted. if we're not vigilant it will go away and it will be very difficult to recover for the next generation. >> gentlemen, we appreciate your time and we appreciate your stark analysis of what's going on, b...

That's before 19 states that passed 33 laws that made it harder for americans to vote. americans aren't yet fully prepared for this situation, this antidemocracy dynamic, but in the coming months as they prepare to participate in early voting, and prepare to try and register to vote, those hurdles will get in their way and they'll feel it in a meaningful way. >> let's play that out. people go, we just talked to juaquin castro about the fact that they're making it hard to register to vote in texas for people who voted in the last election. what happens, i'm going to read from your article, if r...