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Thinks of the nra putting together that list themselves. >> and the nra is not talking about this either. and even in that community, people are not sure what to make of it. this is a difficult story for the nra to explain to its base, especially the libertarian base, that is afraid of any list of any kind. they're afraid of big brother, but the nra is playing a big brother role by collecting this data. one thing that is, if it exists in any form, the nra could hack into it. it could be obtained by people outside of their organization. so this is really a very dangerous story for the gun lobby...

All year round that the obama campaign used to win two presidential elections. when buzzfeed asked the nra what it is doing with the data, an nra spokesperson replied "that is not any of your business." joining me now, steve freeze, who wrote that article. steve, how did you dig this one up? >> well, you know, the big question that he keeps coming -- keeps coming up whenever we talk about gun legislation, how does an association that has nearly 3 million members, it is 3 to 4 million people, how does a group of 3 to 4 million people have this kind of influence, the ability to shut down legisla...