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>> he absolutely should have to prove it. considering what a jury might be looking at, it is simply this. are going to be witnesses that say that someone was crying out for help right before the shooting. >> right. >> someone crying out for help was the guy with the gun or the kid who had skit els and a can of ice tea? >> that's my point. which is why i think you're right. i think mr. geler, i've been saying all along, which is why he needs to be arrested. first of all, we need to have a case that goes in front of a jury. it starts with an arrest, then a charge. and clearly -- >> i agree with ...

Man. we also need to change the law. >> mr. geler, thank you for that. mr. coffee, i end this by quoting a miami-dade circuit judge who denied a defendant's stand your ground defense. denied it with a judge saying in ordinary circumstancees a push or a slap may be met with a push or slap or perhaps a punch. but not a bullet. there wasn't even a push or a slap here. there was a guy walking home with skit els and ice tea. >> a tragedy. >> stay ahead with us. thank you, gentlemen for being with us tonight. explosive new questions about trayvon martin's killer and whether race was a factor in th...

That. it basically is make the entire public square your home. and the argument that i had at the time was that it would permit people tomorrow go out and do exactly what happened, that people would die as a result of it. unfortunately, they have, and they will again in the future, as long as this law exists. >> mr. geler, let me go to attorney coffee. let me ask you, because one of the things we are going to be dealing with as we rally around florida, is dealing with this law. let me ask you, as you look at this as a former federal prosecutor, yourself, can this law even be held or be used to...

And state attorney willie megs says it is crazy, insanity. stand your ground is the dumbest ground ever put on the books, end of quote. joining me now is former florida state senator steve geler, democrat who spoke out against the law when it was first introduced and criminal defense lawyer and former u.s. attorney kendall coffee. thank you both for being here tonight. >> reverend sharpton, it is hard to determine which is a greater tragedy, the senseless killing of a fine young man or the law that may permit that to occur. without impunity. they are both tragedies. that's, again, one of the r...