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Any suggestion of sex with underage minors is untrue. she was told to have sex with bill richardson. a spokeswoman calling the allegation false. saying in bill richard's limited interactions he never saw him in the presence of young or underage girls. governor richardsons has never been to the residence in the virgin islands and never met miss giuffre. joining us now, vikki ward who profiled epstein for vanity fair. cnn, the "washington post", other news outlets combing through 2,000 pages of newly unsealed documents. everything epstein tried to protect for decades was coming out. do you think...

Around recovering stolen money for the government and for private clients. and the interesting thing about that is if you know how to recover stolen money you also know how to hide money. and the reason i mention that is that what i did discover is that before les wexner, his mentor, who i went to meet with in jail at the time, a man named steve hoffenberg who was serving a 20-year jail sentence for the biggest ponzi scheme. >> he was madoff before madoff. >> he was madoff before madoff. >> he was epstein's mentor. >> right. he told me that he taught jeffrey epstein everything he knew. >> he t...

At the time, a man named steve hoffenberg who was serving a 20-year jail sentence for the biggest ponzi scheme. >> he was madoff before madoff. >> he was madoff before madoff. >> he was epstein's mentor. >> right. he told me that he taught jeffrey epstein everything he knew. >> he told you this sitting in prison for having ripped off people? >> yes. he's told me since he's come out, i spoke to him very recently, and he also has told me since in the last week or so that, you know, jeffrey basically stole his money. his money should have been seized by the government, but that jeffrey took it. >...