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Seen hints of that on the campaign trail. >> the deck is still stacked for those at the top. people are not getting a fair shake. the 25 rich et hedge fund managers make more together than all kindergarten teachers in america. the deck is stacked for those at the top, and i am running a campaign that's very clearly stating we want to reshuffle that deck. >> you could call it the bernie effect. and we could be hearing a lot more of it. joining me now from burlington vermont, is msnbc's steve karnacky and also with us the "boston globe's" political editor sheer center and democratic strategist j...

Between bernie sanders and hillary clinton than there is between hillary clinton and martin o'malley. >> jamal, the impact of bernie sanders? >> he divides up the opposition and keeps hillary clinton from having to have a head-to-head contest and allows her to come through with 50%, 55% of the vote or 48% of the vote and win all these caw south carolinaes and primaries. >> steve karnacky shira center and jamal simmons, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks. >> make sure you watch steve on "up" right here at 8:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. still ahead, first lady michelle obama ge...

Consider the context of the decision. listen to this. >> it's been a bad couple of years for the nfl with bountygate, with the bullying scandal, with domestic violence and with child abuse and the way the nhl has ruled in some of these cases was sometimes perceived as random and sometimes even perceived as incompetent and roger goodell wanted to make sure he got this right? >> do you think he got this right? >> i think it's excessive, al. i think that one game would have been plenty. as jim pointed out the weight of the football doesn't affect how a quarterback plays, and i don't think this af...

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