>> rhymes with steven bills. >> yeah, thanks a lot. like i say, it was first nature rather than second because people looked the other way. some of the best dope you got you got from the marks who busted it -- the narks who got it off the guys they were busting and throwing in jail and then they gave you the dope. >> so basically you were doing coke in the white house bathroom. >> yeah, well thank you very much. >> i just had to get that out there. >> that part of the program is obviously not anonymous. i have been outed. >> you didn't tell me this in an na meeting. so i felt it was completely...