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In their office and send out a research question or discuss a particular issue. judge jackson wasn't like that at all. she was very collaborative. she liked debate, as steven mentioned. she was constantly back and forth from her office to the clerk's area and she was, you know, very respectful of our views and always took the time to listen to us and she does the same thing for everyone that comes in our courtroom. she's just an amazing listener and an amazing person to work for and to look up to. >> steven, she will be a first in obviously a number of ways, first black woman to sit on the hig...

Unmeetable by ukraine and the u.s. where does that leave us? >> i think you have seen on the ukrainian side now, for two weeks, president zelenskyy is looking to find a way to end the fighting. that's understandable. he's losing lots of ukrainians every day from this brutal russian attack. and he's indicated, for example, he's prepared to abandon the idea that ukraine might seek nato membership and pursue a path to neutrality but it's not clear yet that moscow is prepared with those demands that almost sometimes seemed designed to elicit rejection from kyiv. >> the problem, ambassador, what do...

Not to conclude an association of the european union that was an economic agreement, not a military agreement. what does neutrality mean to moscow and i suspect it's more than just don't join nato, it's probably also, don't get close to the european union and then the ukrainians have a legitimate question. what's the guarantee of neutrality? where does moscow stay and then in 1984 part of giving up the world's third largest nuclear arsenal, russia committed to sovereignty and territorial integrity and committed not to use force or threaten force against moscow. what kind of assurance does ukra...

How much ukrainian territory does russia control or demand that ukraine recognized as independent, the two little so-called people's republic in donbas, how much of that is going to be in the russian demands and the more the russians demand, the harder it will be more zelenskyy who brings to settlement. >> there is no shortage of ukrainian will to resist. that is in abundance here. ambassador steven phifer, thank you for being with us. we got new video of an explosion and gunfire at a protest in the city of kherson. phil black was talking about this a moment ago. listen to the explosions and...

From ukraine. so the president's going to see all of this firsthand both in poland as well as the consultations with nato leaders in brussels on thursday. >> john, thank you. hugely consequential week ahead. we appreciate the reporting at the white house and let's talk about this and what's ahead this week with ambassador steven phifer and william harry, thank you very much for joining us and i would like to begin, if i could, with the view that president zelenskyy has now, as he told our fareed zakaria in that very important interview yesterday that even if there's only a 1% chance that negot...