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I talked to nancy pelosi, and i have to be honest, niger, i don't know if you heard the interview, i said you haven't gone toe to toe with trump, you let him run the fear and loathing and we saw it was a ruse, he stopped talking about it after the election day, the caravan caravanished as we're talking about it now but it's not funny, the demonizing he was doing that. you weren't in high dungeon about that the way you are now but let's stick apples to apples and she said i told the candidates wow won't beat him on his lies, you won't beat him during the campaign, now we'll take him on so i wan...

>> i think the overwhelming majority of democrats and even potential people that might want to throw their hat in the ring for president have been clear that it's not just about i.c.e., it's about our immigration policy as a whole and we need oversight and if you ask folks about what changes need to happen, sure, i.c.e. is part of that conversation but it's a smaller piece than the whole. we literally have -- the more meat on the bones the better. i talked to nancy pelosi, and i have to be honest, niger, i don't know if you heard the interview, i said you haven't gone toe to toe with trump, yo...