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Because they think there's a strong coalition of people who are supporting this. faith groups, unions, labor groups. grover norquist is going to be at the rollout today. there are going to be 12 different groups, so i think that that is what they see as being really a key difference. >> you know, the question is washington, you know, it used to be you could lose some, win some and washington could juggle. the question now is can washington juggle. is it an intense, the intense focus on one issue so it was on guns and we saw what happen, interest groups can prevail on that. does that happen wit...