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Can't have the federal government involved and have it cost less. that just flies in the face of reality. >> well, that's basic common sense. the irony is peter orszag's defense, the o.m.b. director defense of this is this is money that congress wants to spend, not necessarily money that congress will spend. who thinks that congress isn't going to spend this money? i understand that there are sometimes things that are authorized that are not, we don't actually see congress pay for in the end. but the reality of it is congress is going to spend this money and it's going to spend far more money....

Boehner, steve, said you can't have the federal government involved and have it cost less. that just flies in the face of reality. >> well, that's basic common sense. the irony is peter orszag's defense, the o.m.b. director defense of this is this is money that congress wants to spend, not necessarily money that congress will spend. who thinks that congress isn't going to spend this money? i understand that there are sometimes things that are authorized that are not, we don't actually see congress pay for in the end. but the reality of it is congress is going to spend this money and it's going...