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And hackers, it's fair game, let's report on it. >> is it any different from the tabloidy stuff that ran in the tabloid publication of the 50s, the l.a. confidential stuff? a photograph can be just as damaging if not more so than an e-mail. the news media have been in this business for a long time. >> it's different because of how it was obtained. unsavory people get stories and stories less wrong, let's not worry about the providence. >> well, the providence is secondsary to the news value, i would say that, yeah. and i think that was shown in the case of james rosen. right? >> right. well, i...

And hackers, it's fair game, let's report on it. >> is it any different from the tabloidy stuff that ran in the tabloid publication of the 50s, the l.a. confidential stuff? a photograph can be just as damaging if not more so than an e-mail. the news media have been in this business for a long time. >> it's different because of how it was obtained. unsavory people get stories and stories less wrong, let's not worry about the providence. >> well, the providence is secondsary to the news value, i would say that, yeah. and i think that was shown in the case of james rosen. right? >> right. well, i...