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I think that's a measure of the good will and the tone change. but don't be deceived. he's choosing what he's going to go out for and i think what he's going out for is the poverty and that is the forefront of what will be the hallmark of his papacy. the rest of these things will take time. doctrinal changes come very slowly. i think that's the part that's going to be difficult for everyone. >> do you agree with that father bill? >> more or less. i'm not sure i would say that it's capitalism in particular that he's going after, within a context of a series of statements beginning with john pau...

Moral righteousness that someone like rush limbaugh would assume. and i think it implicates people's decision making and perspective on things even if they're not catholic. the pope, presumably the pope is saying there's some lat opportunity here, there's some change in emphasis that's necessary. what you should be working for first. >> does the burk decision signal something, the first kind of steps towards action aside from a sort of rhetorical shift in tone? >> it was burk and it was regul regally. it's a change in tone, it's a change in the way he wants to do things, but you shouldn't read...

You have bishops coming out and attacking john kerry, when you have bishops coming out and attacking nancy pelosi and kathleen sebelius about a -- moral righteousness that someone like rush limbaugh would assume. and i think it implicates people's decision making and perspective on things even if they're not catholic. the pope, presumably the pope is saying there's some late opportunity here, there's some change in emphasis that's necessary. what you should be working for first. >> does the burk decision signal something, the first kind of steps towards action aside from a sort of rhetorical s...

Rights, i was surprised to see the advocates making him their person of the year, and i was like what is this? i think that's a measure of the good will and the tone change. but don't be deceived. he's choosing what he's going to go out for and i think what he's going out for is the poverty and that is the forefront of what will be the hallmark of his papacy. the rest of these things will take time. doctrinal changes come very slowly. i think that's the part that's going to be difficult for everyone. >> do you agree with that father bill? >> more or less. i'm not sure i would say that it's cap...

Words, i think you said lousy plans. ms. tavenner said not true insurance. you think the plans that were offered when you were the insurance commissioner weren't true insurance? >> in the individual market, the insurance commissioner in kansas and virtually every place in the country does not have -- >> no, it's a yes or no question. were they true insurance plans when you were -- >> a lot of them are not true insurance plans, no. >> thank you. i yield back. >> gentleman from vermont. >> thank you. i'm going to try to summarize quickly what i've been hearing. number one, the website must be fi...