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Else, it is the refusal of the president of the united states and the direction the president has given to his executive department to not cooperate with the congress of the united states in exercising its constitutional duties. that's unacceptable. >> because as you know, the type of stonewalling we're seeing from the trump administration has led many of your fellow democrats to call for impeachment proceedings, formal impeachment proceedings to at least begin, 59 democrats to be exact, we've got their pictures up on the screen, but the day the mueller report was released you said that based ...

Meeting. that would be highly unusual. the only thing about the trump administration that's usual is it's always highly unusual. >> there you go. unpredictable sometimes. thank you very much, ladies. house democrats taking measured but important steps to fight stone walling from the white house. a congressman from the critical state of michigan joins us next. if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if...

Obstructed justice or were part of a conspiracy to obstruct justice? >> he would not -- he wouldn't really admit anything, not even mistakes or whatever. he was really stone walling completely. and he was beginning to look like the haunted nixon of the actual watergate hearings rather than the californian expresident. >> in what word would you express? >> and that was a real jaw smacking matter. and i threw aside my clipboard and i said there are three things you've got to say. the fact you did go to the very verge of criminality. secondly you let down your oath of office and -- >> thirdly i p...

Instructive period of his life were concealed. >> my question is have you had a conversation with anyone at that firm about that investigation? it's a really specific question. >> i would like to know the person you're thinking of because what if -- >> i think you're thinking of someone and you don't don't want to tell us. >> knowingly violating the rules. >> running for president is no excuse for violating the rules of the senate or of the confidentiality of the documents we are privy to. >> chris, christina, david, and i are joined by john lauren. we're prepared for the usual stone walling, ...

October or will he be procolluded by doing so by virtue of this protocol. the protocol is not something that would procollude him. there are situations where he can subpoena someone. subpoenaing the president close to the election is an action that he'll be reluctant to take and only if he's forced to do so. now k look i don't think there is any questions that rudy giuliani is stone walling and trying to play this out to avoid and interview the president. there is no way he wants the president to be interviewed and so you hear things like perjury trap and such like that. that's not what muelle...