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House. so we experienced that kind of stonewalling before, but unlike the last four years these witnesses are not going to be able to count on the former president to protect them if they essentially thwart the wall, and i would hope that we can move expeditiously to enforce the subpoenas. if that's necessary, i hope it won't be, but if it is, but also that the justice department would be open to considering potential criminal contempt charges against anyone who ignores the law. >> do you anticipate any of them coming up and answering the subpoena, but refusing to testify, taking the fifth? >>...

Of these men saying i can't testify. i have immunity. >> if past is prolog, we can certainly anticipate that some may seek to thwart our investigation and certainly the former president has been talking along those lines and if you look at all of the obstruction and all of the stonewalling of the subpoenas by some of these same people in the prior administration, i remember, for example, the deposition of steve bannon when he showed up to the deposition and this was a republican-led deposition at the time with 25 questions that he would answer all of which written out not by the committee, but...