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Call.or in this case it had been indeed been produced. it was being very sensitively, in hardcopy only. so there is according to the whistle-blower word for word transcript of trump's phone call that we don't have.rd the white house can stone wall, fight on privilege grounds.e they can stop people from testifying. the one thing we have to see before this is all over is that word for word transcript is trump's call with the ukraine president. w trump has no grounds to stop that. the president himself says it's a perfect call. the president himself released d the call notes. he's waived any priv...

Did the contempt threat work or did it frankly just show that the white house delay, delay stonewalling tactics, at least tragthis out, is working? >> it's hard to tell exactly, but i think you're right about what's happening here. really the republicans and the white house win because it's win two and a half months since the mueller report was issued and the house has seen nothing. literally nothing until yesterday. so even though the white house doesn't have a legal leg to stand on in holding back this material and doj doesn't have a legal leg to stand on, they have managed to drag this out ...

Accounting firm to turn over his financial records. the initial ruling was a blow to the president. but this appeal process is going to take a lot of time. mr. trump's stonewalling tactics are working for him. and there's little the democrats can do about it. >> right. in is an example. it's a case of the good and the bad for democrats. on the other hand, there's some indication that they have -- they may have the better case in a lot of the instances, at least at the lower court level. in terms of convincing judges that the president doesn't have right to withhold documentation and testimony ...

The president says he'll appeal. thank you to kristen welker for that report. joining us once again senior writer at roll call. neil, what do you make of trump's stonewalling tactics for his current and former employees not to cooperate? will this come back to bite him? >> it's really no surprise that they would be taking this attempt to run out the clock approach with all of the document requests and the former staff in regards to these congressional investigations. i don't know that it comes back to bite them unless the courts start moving ahead really quickly in terms of how long that the...