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On the bigger picture. of course, "stop flying" is a way of activism to, like, send a message to people around you that we need to do something about this. that's why i stopped flying. i didn't stop flying, and i didn't sail across the atlantic twice to lower my carbon footprint. it was to create a debate around it, and it, yeah, it succeeded, i guess. it worked. people seem to see me as an angry teenager who condemns every individual�*s behaviour, which is kind of funny to me. laughs. and you're not that person? no! laughs. what's the difference between that person and who you really are? t...

No, i mean, i have neversaid that people should stop flying. i have never said that. i think that we need to move away from focusing on individual actions and what individuals do and so on, because we need we need to focus on the bigger picture. of course, "stop flying" is a way of activism to, like, send a message to people around you that we need to do something about this. that's why i stopped flying. i didn't stop flying, and i didn't sail across the atlantic twice to lower my carbon footprint. it was to create a debate around it, and it, yeah, it succeeded, i guess. it worked. people seem...

Assets, you want resources, equipment, knowledge, intelligence, to expand much faster and then we have a common goal which is how do we connect africa? we have two are one of the biggest hubs in africa, nairobi, johannesburg, how do we connect them and resource hubs to connect africa was not when you took over as ceo you made a promise and you said you would change things. what did you mean by change things and what have you envisioned then that is worked? i said on1 envisioned then that is worked? i said on 1 april 2020, that's when i said stop flying. so i took over the company that wasn't o...

Changes, stop eating meats, stop flying, stop driving, stop using air conditioning. in other words, stop much of what makes us modern. my next guest is here to tell us that's all wrong. i'll let him explain. his latest book is more from less, the surprising story of how we learn to prosper, using fewer resources and what happens next. andrew, explain the pieces of your book briefly. >> briefly, i wrote the book because in america we've turned this really important corner, our economy continues to grow, population continues to grow but year after year now we take fewer resources from the earth,...

Now just 29.98. ♪ many believe that to save the world, we must make radical changes. stop eating meat, stop flying, stop driving, stop using air conditioni conditioning. in other words, stop doing much of what makes us modern. my next guest is here to tell us that's all wrong. andr andrew mcafee is a repeat guest on "gps." his new book is more from less, the surprising story of how we