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Buying into this ridiculous line? >> absolutely. and there's a real problem here. the deficit conversation is a tough conversation, because you can never tell if people are actually talking about the deficit. the deficit conversation works really, really well for minority parties. because two things. one, during a recession, you need to have a deficit. it's how the government sbre increases economic activity. that's why it's so important. that's why the stimulus funding is. adding money to the economy. you tax it, cut it from spending, you're bailing water from one part of the boat into anothe...

Principles. is that your experience here as well, that democrats are sort of buying into this ridiculous line? >> absolutely. and there's a real problem here. the deficit conversation is a tough conversation, because you can never tell if people are actually talking about the deficit. the deficit conversation works really, really well for minority parties. because two things. one, during a recession, you need to have a deficit. it's how the government increases economic activity. that's why it's so important. that's what stimulus funding is. adding money to the economy. you tax it, cut it from...