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It's good to have you guys. doris, you started with t.r. but then you went on to taft. and you say the golden age of journalism. talk about that -- that progression. >> well, i've always been interested in t.r. i mean, he's fascinating, colorful, wild. the kind of person you want to live with for seven years, which i did. but there was so many good biographies on him i knew i needed an angle just like i did with "lincoln: team of rivals." so i got interested in mr. taft. he turns out to be a far more sympathetic creature than i had known. >> not a lot of books on daft. >> i found out he and ro...

Pill * that affected the public. >> they have made small cuts in the white house budget. the white house budget isn't that big. having worked during the clinton administration there is not a lot of cuts -- bill: it's example, though. >> the president can make some example? i don't think the president should top playing golf. he likes to play golf. it gets his mind off of things. i supported george bush going mountain biking. they should be allowed to do these things. >> george w. bush did stop playing golf at a certain point. bill: rich, can you think of one thing they cut back on other than t...