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From les mis", or stop musically commenting on itself and stop textually commenting on itself. he was like, "just write..." i mean, he didn't put it in that many words. he just gave me a nudge in that direction. i realised what he was saying is i didn't need to armour myself with meta, with irony, with satire. i could just write with words to try and elicit a genuine emotion out of the audience. and once he gave me permission to do that, it actually... changed my life. matilda sits in culture as something that altered british culture a tiny bit, and i contributed to it and that made me think, ...

He appealed to me to try and write less ironically, to not be, like, going, "oh, this is like a bit from les mis", or stop musically commenting on itself and stop textually commenting on itself. he was like, "just write..." i mean, he didn't put it in that many words. he just gave me a nudge in that direction. i realised what he was saying is i didn't need to armour myself with meta, with irony, with satire. i could just write with words to try and elicit a genuine emotion out of the audience. and once he gave me permission to do that, it actually... changed my life. matilda sits in culture as...

Life because i was on this comedy trajectory, and i think i always thought i would leverage the reputation i had got. i always wanted to get back to acting and stuff, but i... i think i had basically gone, "0h, satire, that's obviously my thing." and obviously it was, i obviously had some propensity, but when matthew asked me to write matilda, not only did he get me to write it, but after my first drafts, one of the things he said to me is, "oh, this song here, you're kind of wink... "you're commenting, it's commenting on itself? it's very meta?" and i'm like, yeah, that's, i was born in 1975....

Confidence, for instance, in being a songwriter? yeah, it completely changed my life because i was on this comedy trajectory, and i think i always thought i would leverage the reputation i had got. i always wanted to get back to acting and stuff, but i... i think i had basically gone, "0h, satire, that's obviously my thing." and obviously it was, i obviously had some propensity, but when matthew asked me to write matilda, not only did he get me to write it, but after my first drafts, one of the things he said to me is, "oh, this song here, you're kind of wink... "you're commenting, it's commen...

Worse since that. he appealed to me to try and write less ironically to not be, like, going, "oh, this is like a bit from les mis", or stop musically commenting on itself and stop textually commenting on itself. he was like, "just write." i mean, he didn't put it in that many words. he just gave me a nudge in that direction. i realised what he was saying is, i didn't need to armour myself with meta, with irony, with satire. i could just write, with words, to try and elicit a genuine emotion out of the audience. and once he gave me permission to do that, it actually changed my life. matilda sit...