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>> a lot of people thought he was crazy for launching this fight but he's not alone. in politico, a small but increasingly vocal group of freshman republicans are publicly rejecting the idea they are beholding grover norquist's tax reform plan. there are not many of them yet. political reports say other freshman members have been privately struggling with the pledge. you don't want to be the only house republican to break the pledge. but you can be one of many who jump to make a deal. and it seem that is more and more republicans might be mentally preparing themselves to make that jump down th...

There's a kind of war going on in the republican party over the question, what do republicans care about more? reducing the deficit or cutting taxes? these two things are in conflict because in order to reduce deficit, republicans need to make deals with democrats. in order to cut deals with democrats they'll have to put revenues on the table. democrats won't be willing to do major spending cuts to poor people and seniors in the republicans simply say, no, sorry, the rich are not going to pay a dime more. those republicans who are solely concerned with taxes have a leader. they have a general,...

Candidates, no, we're going to have maybe six or eight debates, et cetera, and it would have avoided the the problems you're referring to. but alex, i thought some of what romney did was brilliant. how about his exchange with santorum on romney care? when he essentially made it santorum's fault that obama care got passed into law. >> i think ed is absolutely right on that. and you have to give mitt enormous credit, because he was ready. and he had a clear mission. and that was to discredit his number one opponent, rick santorum. and i think he did an excellent job on that. on earmarks, on obam...

And they're not very happy with the results. and i think that kind of accommodation and that kind of language really turns voters off. >> i want to bring in the panel here. because i don't understand something. i understand why you would want maybe an outsider to go into congress, but in terms of a commander in chief, in the office of president. look, if i was an independent voter and i really didn't like the president's record, i would say, it's because he doesn't know what he's doing. he's not a political animal, he doesn't understand how washington works. and then i look at the tea party an...

Outsider? >> i think some of them are. but it's really not their resume that distinguishes an insider from an outsider, in my opinion. it's their passion, it's their rhetoric, it's the tone of their presentation. it's the issues that they choose to talk about. the vote, you know, are you worried about what the lobbyists and the funders and the insiders in washington care about or are you talking about what people on main street are discussing today in the diner, having a hamburger? i mean, it isn't your -- i don't believe it's your resume. i think it is your rhetoric and how you relate to amer...