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In a sense, and that the person in the street really only cares when their instagram and whatsapp stop working, as they did this week. and, ben, what's your take on that? is this a turning point? you know, i think there's been sort of waves battering facebook- and the barricades around facebook for a while and it'sjust _ like a moment where maybe the water kind of comes over and in terms - of american congressional action, i there's a tonne of pressure on them. and it's happening at a time - when a big part of their business, not the only part, but a big part which is the blue facebook appi cl...

And i think that that is going to encourage a lot of people who work at these companies who may feel ambivalent about some of the work that they have been doing to step forward. so i think this is a big deal for facebook and i think that the scrutiny is going to spread to other big tech firms as well. this is just the start. ok, because i could argue this debate is only to media types like, and political types like us in a sense and that the person in the street really only cares when their instagram and whatsapp stop working, as they did this week. and, ben, what's your take on that? is this ...

>> 13 service members. are you trying to get the rest of their family members out of there. >> we won't stop working. america does not take orders from the taliban. we set the timetable, and get people out of afghanistan. i know veterans, active servicemembers around the world are watching with baited breath, working extremely hard behind-the-scenes to make this happen and make sure we can get all of our people out of there. it is so important. we won't stop working. jillian: i know it is loud [where you are] is okay. glad to talk to you when you are in a safe location.

Force, they have now been a whole fleet of various trucks, personnel carriers, jeeps, tanks, all the sorts of things, you can probably maintain and service fairly easily. i think when we get to some of the aeroplanes and helicopters, it seems as they've managed to co—opt some afghan aircrews to support these, and i suspect... reports they have pilots in their ranks as well, so maybe one or two these will be able to be used for some time, but i think they will struggle to maintain it. they need a lot of maintenance and if they do not have someone check to do that maintenance properly, it will...

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