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This political gamesmanship that has gone on way too long with our military. >> harris: i want to talk more about that. what you are talking about is the fact that our readiness is actually even effected under this continuing resolution. it only goes seven days. who can plan anything in that time? >> you are exactly right. this is what we've been operating under since october, the series of stopgap measures, nobody can plan but in addition under this sort of funding you've got to do exactly what you did last year, whether you need to are not. for example last friday the pentagon came out with ...

Either, and the result is that any of these stopgap measures push the conflict down the road. eventually, members are going to have to deal with this issue, this question of immigration. an extraordinarily portant question extraordinarily divisive, especially within the republican party, and imagine at some point the government will be open again, but it's tough to have a sense of what it might take for that to happen. >> gosh, i hope the government is going to open again. >> this is the 19th shutdown we have had going back 40 years. the average length of a shutdown is 6.9 days. the longest we...

Members of congress. that's in the 27th amendment. which i think we should change. but that just goes to a larger problem, which is we have these continuing resolutions because congress won't do its main job, which is to pass a judgment. a budget is a blueprint for the government to work. and it's been months since the house kicked over something to the senate. that's why i supported with the organization no labels a measure called no budget no pay, which pass a budget they don't get - paid. and i think that would go a long way toward eliminating these stopgap measures that we keep having over...

Personnel don't get paid. but you know who does get paid? members of congress. that's in the 27th amendment. which i think we should change. but that just goes to a larger problem, which is we have these continuing resolutions because congress won't do its main job, which is to pass a judgment. a budget is a blueprint for the government to work. and it's been months since the house kicked over something to the senate. that's why i supported with the organization no labels a measure called no budget no pay, which means if the congress doesn't pass a budget they don't get paid. and i think that ...

The fight against islamic state cross the globe will continue. the general rule of thumb here is if you are wearing a uniform and there is a government shutdown. you still have to show up for work. it is a little complicated is with civil y-- civilian contrac. are they deemed personnel. and paychecks stop going out to sailors and airmen and soldiers and to the family members of those receiving grievance pay, if a family member died in a combat zone, those payments don't go out but operations continue. i think the bigger issue here at the pentagon and we hear about this a lot, the last time we ...