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Convention. so all of this is very interesting, but what does it have to do with today? democrats are talk bing about getting rid of or reducing superdelegates and bernie sanders says that's undemocratic. i would just say you can go read about it, go listen to my podcast about this. i would say jonathan roush put it well, he says mediated democracy, which means it goes through certain channels -- >> right. >> -- is actually more democratic in many ways than direct democracy. i think that's the thing that we need to think about here. >> well, in the age, a.b. stoddard, of facebook, misinformati...

View -- a.b. stoddard alluded to this, how comey handled himself. when the book came out, excerpts, comey was viewed as the picture he was trying to paint of somebody who was more loyal to, you know, the country, to honor, to these sort of ideas of decency and comparing himself inevitably to president trump but he ended up on defense over some of the smaller items, the, you know, focus on the president's hands, for example. >> yeah, the stuff about the president's hands came across as petty. i have to say, i personally found it a little surprising that his first interview, i believe, was with ...