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Story that this meeting was about adoptions. it's not the first time we've been told to move along, there's nothing to see here. little by little, as more information comes out from various sources, the story changes. today, sarah huckabee sanders said we're all wasting our time. >> everybody wants to make this a story about misleading. the only thing i see are the misleading stories about this russia collusion, and based on anonymous sources. i think that is -- if we're going to talk about misleading, that's the only thing misleading i see in this process. >> given how much the narrative has ...

Trump jr.'s story changes is because the way the media asks the question. they'll ask it ten different ways. donald trump jr. is not your typical politician. either is jared kushner. they're not versed in the ways of spin, use of language. remember bill clinton -- >> there's basic facts. there's no way to spin a number. that's what i think about. >> the other fact is this russian attorney changed what the topic of the meeting was once she got there. >> that's true. >> unanimous consent that there was nothing about campaigns or ties to russia that was ever brought up. why are we wasting time? >...

That's important. there -- whether you could say, anthony scaramucci not fully up to speed, wasn't sure, would have to talk to the president. said the president will sign a very important bill. may have no choice in the sense congress passing a sanctions bill this week looks like with overwhelming majorities in the house and senate. the president could have picked this fight. appears, see if the story changes. sarah huckabee sanders suggesting he will sign it. on the issue of leaks the president complained repeatedly about leaks and a lot of times team trump suggested they come from holdovers ...

Violation. until we have something tangible to talk about, they are going to keep talking in the abstract. >> bill: can return this to another angle then? the changing story. does that -- changing or not knowing, does that change the way you evaluate this or not? >> only until there is a change in the story, which makes it a violation. the changing story is embarrassing. it is stupid. the changing story is a mistake. i told the story changes into a specific fact, that makes it a violation, it looks horrible, but it is still not a violation of rule, regulation, law, statute. >> bill: here's one...

Everybody knows donald trump is awful. the poll numbers you just talked about showed that. all right, all right, what are you going to do when you replace him? that's what america wants answered by 2018 in november. >> that's going to be a wrap right there so nick doesn't really get mad at me. good to see you both, howard and susan, thank you. at thep to of t top of the hour russian/trump jr. story changes. i'll get reaction from both sides. across the country, we walk. carrying flowers that signify why we want to end alzheimer's disease. but what if, one day, there was a white flower for alzh...