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Family of the victims is for us to pay oj for work were going to have to feed his fame in order for them to get their money. he's going to be around were going to see him all over the place. >> dana: he's been widely about how to make a living, he's been smart about hiding some of that money, the home that he owns in florida, it's protected from the civil asset forfeiture. it's interesting how parole works differently in different states. had this crime happened somewhere else, he might not have been eligible for parole today. it is very hard for those of us who watched this story develop over...

The irony of all of this is the only way for him to pay the family of the victims is for us to pay oj for work were going to have to feed his fame in order for them to get their money. he's going to be around were going to see him all over the place. >> dana: he's been widely about how to make a living, he's been smart about hiding some of that money, the home that he owns in florida, it's protected from the civil asset forfeiture. it's interesting how parole works differently in different states. had this crime happened somewhere else, he might not have been eligible for parole today. it is v...

They needed to search. out there near this perhaps part of the north lawn as well. and then they slowly return things back to normal. but certainly, his response from the secret service that we expect and obviously everyone here probably a little jumpy after the news from last weekend where that fence jumpers spent 15 minutes wandering white house lawn. as we can say now that did not happen in this case. the guy did not even make it over the white house fence before the alarms went off. and the government side of the buffer zone by the bike racks. >> elizabeth: okay we will continue to monitor...

Now, you and i know when you're doing these live interviews, you're eye to eye and looking at that person and dealing with that. in your peripheral vision this is going on and this guy is able to walk up to them, unload as you've reported at least eight different shots, then turn and get away. the question of course, is why hasn't that picture that i'm referring to, that i'm seeing on the internet, why hasn't that totally been released yet? many times in law enforcement, police want to use that picture first. they want to make the identification and they want to go get the bad guy. but jim cav...

When you see this story develop, can you not help but think of "orange is the new black" and in that storyline for those who have not watched it there is this discussion of a transgender inmate in there that's been refused hormonal they arerapy and here we have a case where that is what's being alleged. can that happen? can hormonal therapy or the drugs that are required or needed be denied? >> our firm view and it's backed by the department of justice, is that it is medically necessary treatment under the 8th amendment which cannot be denied because someone is incarcerate incarcerated. unfort...