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Election, bill clinton's irrelevant. the republicans are counting on clinton being a one-termer. you can't necessarily correlate the midterm with the next presidential. >> i do -- i like when you're going and what larry is saying, too, which is look at the states that went for trump by 20, 30, 40,000 votes. the wisconsins, the pennsylvanias, the michigans and see -- also what turnout looks like. i think this is a challenge for so many of these state-wide candidates and the candidates sitting in the exurben trump districts, the voters who turn out, do they remain engaged and turn out in the sam...

To him in many other facets of his appointments and administration. the thing is understand is these individuals are supposed to be independent of a president even though we know politics comes into it. so it is a very sharp signal to his current nominees, future appointe appointees. he's watching their remarks, their rulings. he might have his own litmus test. you mentioned three criteria at the start of this report, bill, in terms of age and conservatism. we might add a fourth and that might be fidelity to the president. >> joan, thank you for your insight. we appreciate it. >> thank you, bi...

And there are concerns about the dams. initials warn there's a potential for overflow from at least one of the dams this morning. let's check in right now with bill karins who has been following all of this. >> we potentially have a new record for any tropical cyclone in the lower 48 for most rainfall. the old one was 1978. we had a rain gauge report in with over four feet of rain. in one location in the last five days. the rain continues to fall. heaviest over the beaumont area. your rain predictions got updated. your river that goes through downtown is supposed to crest at two feet above the...

>> martha: breaking news, "the new york times" has interviewed president trump, and it is explosive. if there between this accurately, he is saying he never would've hired attorney general jeff sessions for that role if he had known that he was going to recuse himself from the russian investigation. that story developing. will bring you more if that in just a moment. in the meantime, new developments in a story that we brought to you early this week involving a former columbia university student falsely accused of rape. back in 2013, mattress girl when everybody is clear to him of any wrongdoi...

Statement may have been in the overall investigation that was already ongoing in terms of the russian counter espionage attacks. >> going to be a lot more on this story developing. certainly more reaction coming in throughout the day. the president tweeting, "i did not make, do not have any such recordings" of his conversations with the fired fbi director, james comey. we're going to get back to all of you. i want to turn to the other big story we're following right now -- health care. the republican bill is now officially out. republican leadership in the senate. they have finally revealed th...