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>> this is ed rendell. just left office in pennsylvania. my home state. i want you to listen to what he said on "morning joe" this morning. he said the state pension deals struck with the unions as late as 11 years ago, he said that is what's killing pennsylvania fiscally. this is the democrat talking. let's listen. >> every governor and every state legislature is going to have to come to the grips with the problem and make cuts. it's difficult because since the recession took hold, virtually every state's been making cuts. it's the excesses of the past. in pennsylvania, governor corbett is go...

Had two smart people here. altar, you're always smart about these things and you can put on your clear analytic hat. whatever. and tell me who would be the strongest republican next next november to face the president. >> i think chris christie would be. i'm a constituent in new jersey. i've watched him operate in my state. he's smart, straight talking, appealing, funny, from a blue state and his weight is an advantage. makes him seem like more of a regular guy. i take him as his word he's not running. in 2005, when -- >> wait a minute. you've made an interesting comment. now, everybody has we...

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Make us servants. we're not going to stand for that. >> this is ed rendell. just left office in pennsylvania. my home state. i want you to listen to what he said on "morning joe" this morning. he said the state pension deals struck with the unions as late as 11 years ago, he said that is what's killing pennsylvania fiscally. this is the democrat talking. let's listen. >> every governor and every state legislature is going to have to come to the grips with the problem and make cuts. it's difficult because since the recession took hold, virtually every state's been making cuts. it's the excesses...