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Ambassador volker was putting him in touch with craukrainians. ukraine minneapolians and the g. knowing ambassador volker as well as i do, he's a straight up guy. he was probably thinking, i can't say no to the president's guy and these ukrainians will maybe set him straight because i'm sure at this point, at the point he made the connection, at some point he must have known because rudy giuliani was very vocal, that rudy giuliani had some kind of crazy, garbage theories about what had happened in ukraine historically and the relationship between ukraine and russia and russia's intervention an...

>> he's a straight up guy. he says he doesn't believe in interracial relationships. he's open about it. >> i've never gotten close to a black dude. for him, he's not like a normal black guy that you'll meet. he's really smart. so, i mean, it's a learning process for me, too. i don't have a problem -- what you do is what you do. >> but i'm working on it. >> he is working on it. >> bryan says he tries to check in with his wife and two young sons every day. how are the boys doing? are they with you? >> but five years of arrests for a variety of drug related offenses have made him an absentee fath...

For over a year and a half with no problems with any other inmates. i wanted to go downstairs and talk to him to see what has changed and is he, in fact, in fear of his safety. >> hey, russell. >> yeah. >> lieutenant. you said you feared your safety. >> no, man. it was all a misunderstanding. you know what i'm saying? there was never know fear. it's documented i'm a skinhead. so when i came out of medical they put me in a cell with a guy who was black. i said something about it. i figure they say i'm going to be reclassed. it was misunderstood as to why i was down here. as long as i'm celled t...

Credit card fraud. >> i don't necessarily have a problem with it unless he flat out disrespects me about it. you know, calls me the "n" word, whatever. then there would be a problem. it's just like a respect thing. >> i felt pretty much comfortable with him because he's a pretty straight-up guy. that's the type of people i like to be around. he's not going to bull [ bleep ] or lie to you. me and him have been pretty cool since day one. >> you don't care about that tattoo on the inside of his left arm? i mean, i make jokes about it myself. i'm not going to lie. no, i mean, it really doesn't bot...

There was no need at the outset of this there for this to have an obstruction of justice component to it. he created that by his insi insistence on people doing things that he wanted done which weren't normal to the course of an investigation so if there is a witch hunt as it relates to him and obstruction, it's a self-imposed, self-inflicted wound. >> even saying on cnn's air, answering questions and on other networks that it's not a witch hunt. >> but maybe you can help me understand this. robert mueller had this great reputation, everybody said he's a straight up guy. we now found out he wa...