MSNBC Morning Joe February 14, 2022 11:19:00
Sense of people hood, their sense of nation hood. also another irony, but the territories russia annexed and is now occupying, these are the most historically pro russian areas of the country. ukrainians will tell you we will fight to the end to liberate all of our territory but they will wink and nudge and say, by the way, he has pinned up the fifth colonists and one of the reasons our country has developed politically, socially over the last years is we don't have the rogue elements influencing the trajectory of our nation. so in a way ukraine has inadvertently done a huge favor -- i'm sorry...
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