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That means 40% of his military budget. how long are we going to go on funding both sides in these oil wars? whether it's in the middle east or russia or anywhere else. that is flat out stupid. and it's time we finally had a plan, a strateging plan, to get off ooil. we cannot do it overnight, but we can do it a lot faster than we have been doing it. and remember, anderson, what brought down the soviet union? it was the collapse of oil prices between 1998 and 2002, brought on strategically by saudi overpumping. we now have it in our power to bring down those oil prices by massively rapidly movin...

Killing american oil companies, and now biden and blinken are begging saudi arabia to cut its production, excuse me, to raise its production to ease the pain on us now. but what both those have in common is we're always begging. we're either begging them to cut their protection or to raise their production because they're the swing producers. let's stop begging and let's have a strategic plan to end our addiction to their oil. that is the one thing that would truly, truly undermine putin and putinism. >> tom friedman, always good to talk to you. thanks, tom. >> up next, to tom friedman's point...

Choices once he got everything wrong from the beginning were lose early and lose small, lose late and lose big. there clearly is some effort there to lose early and big. lose early and small, and the way to do that is to claim that they were just going for, you know, a link between crimea and russia and the eastern regions. but i think we shouldn't underestimate how confused they might be themselves and what kind of divisions might be going on there. i still think, though, anderson, putin's overall fallback position is to try to create as absolutely as many refugees as he can from ukraine into...